Gemini Restore-A-Deck Kit

bossmansmith"][quote name="TheSealerStore:

The Gemini Kit is designed for prepping when reapplying the TWP, not just for general cleaning as it may remove some of the current stain. This is normal for prep.

Best to put the umbrella back in the same spot if not reapplying the TWP.[/quote]

Thanks for clarifying the Kit, was very worried because of the last time (but i did use a deck brush to help it clean which I don't think I will do this year). Since i have cleaned everything very well (sponge and soapy water all surfaces) can I just use a sprayer to apply part 1, let it sit as recommended and then use sprayer to apply part 2, then rinse - so no scrubbing at all to lessen stain removal?
Also, should I use it more dilutated (i read somewhere that for maintenance coat use at half strength if no issues - and since the only issue i have it very isolated to 2 handrail top boards that are 14 and 20 feet long everything else but under umbrella looked good)?

Yes you can do that. Use at 4-6 oz per gallon of water.

TheSealerStore:

The Gemini Kit is designed for prepping when reapplying the TWP, not just for general cleaning as it may remove some of the current stain. This is normal for prep.

Best to put the umbrella back in the same spot if not reapplying the TWP.

Thanks for clarifying the Kit, was very worried because of the last time (but i did use a deck brush to help it clean which I don't think I will do this year). Since i have cleaned everything very well (sponge and soapy water all surfaces) can I just use a sprayer to apply part 1, let it sit as recommended and then use sprayer to apply part 2, then rinse - so no scrubbing at all to lessen stain removal?
Also, should I use it more dilutated (i read somewhere that for maintenance coat use at half strength if no issues - and since the only issue i have it very isolated to 2 handrail top boards that are 14 and 20 feet long everything else but under umbrella looked good)?

bossmansmith:

I use Restore-A-Deck kit in 2016 and it ended up removing some of my existing TWP 100 (stained in 2014) so I had to sand everything down and start from scratch instead of just a maintenance coat.
I only have time and energy for maintenance coat this year, (2017). I have cleaned everything with soapy water and it looks good except for 2 issues.
1) I have some small black streaking on the top handrail. Can I use safely use this to clean and brighten without removing the existing stain which has otherwise held up well over the last year?
2) i had an offset umbrella out all year and during cleaning noticed the area under it has not faded at all, I do not want to strip or sand the whole deck for this 2ft by 2ft area, any ideas? I can put umbrella back in same place to hide it if only way to lessen the difference is strip and/or sand.

The Gemini Kit is designed for prepping when reapplying the TWP, not just for general cleaning as it may remove some of the current stain. This is normal for prep.

Best to put the umbrella back in the same spot if not reapplying the TWP.

I use Restore-A-Deck kit in 2016 and it ended up removing some of my existing TWP 100 (stained in 2014) so I had to sand everything down and start from scratch instead of just a maintenance coat.
I only have time and energy for maintenance coat this year, (2017). I have cleaned everything with soapy water and it looks good except for 2 issues.
1) I have some small black streaking on the top handrail. Can I use safely use this to clean and brighten without removing the existing stain which has otherwise held up well over the last year?
2) i had an offset umbrella out all year and during cleaning noticed the area under it has not faded at all, I do not want to strip or sand the whole deck for this 2ft by 2ft area, any ideas? I can put umbrella back in same place to hide it if only way to lessen the difference is strip and/or sand.

SteveL0213:

Good morning,
What is the typical time frame/sequence following steps 1 & 2 before applying new stain? How long after Step 1 to wait for Step 2 and how long following Step 2 to re-stain?

Thanks.

Step 2 goes on right after you are done with the Step 1, while wood is wet. Wait 48 hours to dry before staining.

Good morning,
What is the typical time frame/sequence following steps 1 & 2 before applying new stain? How long after Step 1 to wait for Step 2 and how long following Step 2 to re-stain?

Thanks.

Doug Adamson:

We have a new screened porch with pressure treated pine sides. We are located in AL and are planning to use TWP100 after waiting a couple of months for aging/drying. The floor of the porch is slate with a sealer,enhancer on it. I understand the need for the Gemini prep kit but am concerned with potential damage to the finish of the slate floor. Should I be?

Wait 4-12 months before staining. No issues with this Kit harming a sealer for slate.

We have a new screened porch with pressure treated pine sides. We are located in AL and are planning to use TWP100 after waiting a couple of months for aging/drying. The floor of the porch is slate with a sealer,enhancer on it. I understand the need for the Gemini prep kit but am concerned with potential damage to the finish of the slate floor. Should I be?

Kcoyle11:

I stained with TWP a year ago and i want to restain it. I have some rust spots from metal furniture will the restore a deck remove these or will i need to strip the TWP and sand?

Depends on how deep the rust has soaked in. Sanding may not even be able to get it out. The Step 2 brightener is the most effective at removing rust stains, not the cleaner or stripper.

I stained with TWP a year ago and i want to restain it. I have some rust spots from metal furniture will the restore a deck remove these or will i need to strip the TWP and sand?

ross57023:

When I use the cleaner to prep my deck for staining. Do I also need to use the brightener after the 1st step. I'm not taking of my twp stain I put on. Just re doing my stain to protect the wood from sun snow ect...

It is helpful to use the brightener to neutralize after the cleaner.

When I use the cleaner to prep my deck for staining. Do I also need to use the brightener after the 1st step. I'm not taking of my twp stain I put on. Just re doing my stain to protect the wood from sun snow ect...

bart spinelli:

I used twp 1530 about 3 years ago for my deck. I want to give it a new coat. do I need to preclean and if so with what. thank you. bart

Yes, prep with the Gemini Restore kit.

I used twp 1530 about 3 years ago for my deck. I want to give it a new coat. do I need to preclean and if so with what. thank you. bart

Steve Carrara:

I have a cedar deck that is three years old. every year, I have used B Moore Arbor coat semi Trans Oil Based Cedar stain following the recommended cleaning procedure. I am not at all satisfied with the longevity of this overpriced product. I would like to start over by using the Gemini restore kit and then TWP oil based. Once the deck is prepped and allowed to dry. Am I correct in my understanding that your product is a two coat wet on wet process? Also, were can I see your color samples?
Steve Carrara

Hello, to prep your deck you will need to remove all of the old coatings of the BM Arborcoat fully from the wood. This cannot be cleaned or stripped off. Most likely you will need to sand to remove the Arborcoat. Once removed, you do apply wet on wet. Samples are here: https://www.twpstain.com/stain-samples

I have a cedar deck that is three years old. every year, I have used B Moore Arbor coat semi Trans Oil Based Cedar stain following the recommended cleaning procedure. I am not at all satisfied with the longevity of this overpriced product. I would like to start over by using the Gemini restore kit and then TWP oil based. Once the deck is prepped and allowed to dry. Am I correct in my understanding that your product is a two coat wet on wet process? Also, were can I see your color samples?
Steve Carrara

DonH:

I am about to use Restore-A-Deck on 4+ years old White Oak outdoor park benches. There is no close by water source. I will be taking 2 or 3 5 gallon buckets of water. I can get more if required.

Can I use Step #1 on one day and Step #2 on the next day and following that a few days later with the TWP Stain I also purchased?

Any other hints.

Step 1 and Step 2 should be the same day. Apply the Step 1 and scrub to remove all graying and dirt. Rinse and apply the Step 2 right away. Rinse and let dry for 48 hours before staining.

I am about to use Restore-A-Deck on 4+ years old White Oak outdoor park benches. There is no close by water source. I will be taking 2 or 3 5 gallon buckets of water. I can get more if required.

Can I use Step #1 on one day and Step #2 on the next day and following that a few days later with the TWP Stain I also purchased?

Any other hints.

ross57023:

The Gemini cleaner and brightener as I apply and it gets on glass will that hurt it or stain it when it dries. Can I clean it of easily once the deck is completed. I don't want to mark up the glass with your kit. thanks

The Gemini Kit does not harm glass but make sure to rinse well when done and while wet to remove any soap, dirt, etc. It will make the cleanup much easier.

The Gemini cleaner and brightener as I apply and it gets on glass will that hurt it or stain it when it dries. Can I clean it of easily once the deck is completed. I don't want to mark up the glass with your kit. thanks